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We got it from some korean place.

oh! It did not originate in Hawaii. It is simply popular there. We get it from a hawaiian bbq place as our main go-to-dish

1:19 AM

I had to google that just now lol

yeah katsu is japanese very yummy

Is it just popular in the like, greater pacific region?

Please remember this is #tulpa-questions

I'd have diverted it but I have no idea who to @ for Burt

1:24 AM

I see it's Moon but

1:25 AM

I did not at the time

All good

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I have tulpas and I am asking a question, I fail to see the issue.

1:26 AM

Is something wrong with my tag?

@Moon @Moon @Moon @Moon

1:27 AM

Oh

1:27 AM

I was so confused

1:27 AM

Sorry

whar

Please remember this is #tulpa-questions

@Ravenmoor check the pinned messages for the tulpa.info link to guides & resources (edited)

but more or less because this whole concept of Tulpas has fascinated me, and I want a more insider look on how it goes.

if you want an insider look, an interesting (but mostly symbolism filled) guide written by a tulpa is the one by, well, tulpa001. if you need the link, i can find it :P (edited)

additionally, just scrolling on the .info forums, looking at progress reports and tips is also a fun read (edited)

Oh, and I guess I have just a few personal but related questions, if you feel up for answering them @savedlatin (you are in no way forced to, I'm just curious), those being:

How was it like first deciding to you were to commit to something like this? Was it scary? Comforting? Fascinating? Just what was it like, in general, to commit to something like this?
Do you at all regret your decision or wish for things to have played out differently?

(edited)

for me, it just kinda made sense. i didn't regret anything other than not starting any sooner. i had been questioning my plurality for half a year when i started last june/july, and i think that gave me the right footing to get thru the development pretty quick.

8:10 AM

i'll admit having a very receptive and open-minded therapist helped a lot with letting me ask myself the right questions, alongside being in a living situation where i wouldn't be judged for being open about this, and a job with enough downtime for me to talk to kaybee as much as i did early on. but those only helped me, they weren't critical to anything i had experienced.

at first, and i mean very early on, it was a bit scary to have the thought of someone else living in my mind, but as i read more about tulpamancy and continued creating my first headmate, it kinda just became normal. what it was like? it wasnt much of a big thing for me if im being honest, more of a slow process i definitely do not regret my decision to dive into tulpamancy/intentional plurality. its opened my mind on different viewpoints of identity itself, i feel like i sort of, needed, to go through with this as a part of my life and removing it would be a detriment to my development as a person. plus, i hold my headmates very close to me. however, i was... very young when i first started tulpamancy and i wish i was more of a better host to my first headmate when i was creating her

kaybee

i'll admit having a very receptive and open-minded therapist helped a lot with letting me ask myself the right questions, alongside being in a living situation where i wouldn't be judged for being open about this, and a job with enough downtime for me to talk to kaybee as much as i did early on. but those only helped me, they weren't critical to anything i had experienced.

Neat, again, I only just heard of this as a concept recently, so it's actually pretty insightful and neat to hear someone else who has experience.

i'll admit i'm still very fresh to this whole thing though, it would absolutely benefit you to dig into more experiences and stuff

Our only regret was not doing enough research before starting out, a lot of the problems we had early on could have been avoided

me too, i am absolutely not the tulpa expert around here!

izzy ↩️

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but it's been very beneficial for both of us. i get to bring a whole healthy individual into this world to live with and love, and they've helped me tackle some of my problems like my nyctophobia and executive dysfunction.

We’ve been doing this for 4 years and it’s been quite a ride, at first everything was oh so exciting and now it’s just the norm, the comforting sort of normal, like getting toast in the morning

Trixie 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 ↩️

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8:16 AM

That’s pretty understandable, I wouldn’t encourage anyone to jump in unless they’re pretty sure

Ravenmoor ↩️

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Trixie 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0

That’s pretty understandable, I wouldn’t encourage anyone to jump in unless they’re pretty sure

I've heard very vaguely about dissipation, or, in simple terms, getting rid of tulpas, and I guess I have some sparse questions about that too.

How often is it used in practice? Like is it something people use semi-often? Or is it more or less a panic button? Y'know, use in an emergency type of deal.
Is it always possible to do? Or is there a "point of no return" type of deadline?
In your opinion: Do you think it's morally or ethically right to do so?

I mean I’ve heard of people doing it, but it’s like a last resort kind of thing usually And I think it’d be harder to dissipate an older headmate than a younger one, like because they’re more ingrained in thoughts and stuff In my opinion, I don’t like the idea but it’s not like I can stop anyone, plus it’s not like I know what’s best for everyone

Trixie 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0

I mean I’ve heard of people doing it, but it’s like a last resort kind of thing usually And I think it’d be harder to dissipate an older headmate than a younger one, like because they’re more ingrained in thoughts and stuff In my opinion, I don’t like the idea but it’s not like I can stop anyone, plus it’s not like I know what’s best for everyone

Got it, again, thank you for your insight, this whole thing to me is just really fascinating and I feel like I could ask questions for a while, but, I'm not gonna pester you longer when I could probably just read.

No problem, good luck with the reading

@Ravenmoor

This whole thing is fascinating to me, to an extent where I am tempted to try it and delve further, but the thought of long-term commitment that I seemingly can't back out of, horrifies me...

yeh, horrifying is the right word for the idea of potentially losing control of your own mind. Good news is, altho you'll probably be able to find a few people saying that you can't back out of tulpamancy once you've started, the truth is you can back out whenever you want dissipation is just a fancy term for a system carrying out the decision that a particular headmate isn't going to be around any more. The only way you won't be able to 'dissipate' a tulpa is if you can't decide if you want the tulpa to be around or not (which is understandably a very challenging decision to make in some circumstances because of how important the practice can become to many people's lives) it's worth noting that, in the same way that you can dissipate a headmate you can also decide to 'un-dissipate' a headmate at a later time, provided you can remember them. Dissipation isn't final, and nor is tulpamancy... it's all up to you and what you decide to do in your own mind. You can probably find many statements saying that tulpamancy must be done in a particular way, but I recommend approaching it however you want to and in a way that is about exploring your own ability to reshape your mind. In my opinion, tulpamancy is about increasing the ability to change the mind, and if it is approached with the rigid view that tulpamancy is irreversible then that exploration won't be very deep (edited)

funny how some people say “you can’t back out of tulpamancy once you started” when in reality most concerns people share is “help how do I keep my tulpa they disappear all the time and stopped talking to me”

3

3:32 PM

myth: BUSTED (edited)

right? that's the real challenge for many!

3:33 PM

most people have got way more personal experience of not being plural, and already know it's possible because of living that way for (usually) most of their lives

3:34 PM

in contrast, becoming plural intentionally is 'uphill' in terms of learning new things

3:35 PM

some say you can't go back down once you've climbed the mountain... but that's not so, you can just roll back down! (edited)

3:36 PM

what you can't do is go back in time and delete your experience of having climbed the mountain. But hopefully you wouldn't want to, because you'd learn a lot about yourself along the way ^w^

I remember back "before" lynns vocality, i wanted to quit because i was confused

4:20 PM

And thought i should just "start over"

who's lynn

meeee >:[

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

@Ravenmoor

This whole thing is fascinating to me, to an extent where I am tempted to try it and delve further, but the thought of long-term commitment that I seemingly can't back out of, horrifies me...

yeh, horrifying is the right word for the idea of potentially losing control of your own mind. Good news is, altho you'll probably be able to find a few people saying that you can't back out of tulpamancy once you've started, the truth is you can back out whenever you want dissipation is just a fancy term for a system carrying out the decision that a particular headmate isn't going to be around any more. The only way you won't be able to 'dissipate' a tulpa is if you can't decide if you want the tulpa to be around or not (which is understandably a very challenging decision to make in some circumstances because of how important the practice can become to many people's lives) it's worth noting that, in the same way that you can dissipate a headmate you can also decide to 'un-dissipate' a headmate at a later time, provided you can remember them. Dissipation isn't final, and nor is tulpamancy... it's all up to you and what you decide to do in your own mind. You can probably find many statements saying that tulpamancy must be done in a particular way, but I recommend approaching it however you want to and in a way that is about exploring your own ability to reshape your mind. In my opinion, tulpamancy is about increasing the ability to change the mind, and if it is approached with the rigid view that tulpamancy is irreversible then that exploration won't be very deep (edited)

it's worth noting that, in the same way that you can dissipate a headmate you can also decide to 'un-dissipate' a headmate at a later time, provided you can remember them.

I can attest to this personally :)

Dissipation is a silly concept for my system

4:34 PM

I cant dissipate a tulpa, they are either talking or they arent

4:35 PM

After long periods of it, they can feel a little "shallow" but its not too much of an issue for us

one of the forbidden secrets of dark tulpamancy is the fact that all your previous tulpas, all their "forms", stages of development, all their versions, merges, fusions, they are still in your brain, separate from each other, even if you think they don't exist anymore, or if you believe the previous versions of your tulpa don't exist because they "grew" or "changed" they are still accessible to you, and you can have separate versions of your tulpa/merges/fusions talk to each other (edited)

4:35 PM

4:39 PM

dissipation is just a commitment to never interact with your tulpa anymore, there is nothing dramatic about it

Well, when people dissipate their tulpa, they make the association that it died or whatever

4:42 PM

What about the difference between a sentient thoughtform and a "person"

4:42 PM

For me i basically draw the line wherever i want to

4:43 PM

Since i have the control to do so (for now lol)

Dissipation is basically death and does feel like death. They aren’t fully gone and they can come back but it’s not unreasonable to see it as a form of death

so death or no death?

I prefer no death today please

folds back the pocketknife (edited)

hmm

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

@Ravenmoor

This whole thing is fascinating to me, to an extent where I am tempted to try it and delve further, but the thought of long-term commitment that I seemingly can't back out of, horrifies me...

yeh, horrifying is the right word for the idea of potentially losing control of your own mind. Good news is, altho you'll probably be able to find a few people saying that you can't back out of tulpamancy once you've started, the truth is you can back out whenever you want dissipation is just a fancy term for a system carrying out the decision that a particular headmate isn't going to be around any more. The only way you won't be able to 'dissipate' a tulpa is if you can't decide if you want the tulpa to be around or not (which is understandably a very challenging decision to make in some circumstances because of how important the practice can become to many people's lives) it's worth noting that, in the same way that you can dissipate a headmate you can also decide to 'un-dissipate' a headmate at a later time, provided you can remember them. Dissipation isn't final, and nor is tulpamancy... it's all up to you and what you decide to do in your own mind. You can probably find many statements saying that tulpamancy must be done in a particular way, but I recommend approaching it however you want to and in a way that is about exploring your own ability to reshape your mind. In my opinion, tulpamancy is about increasing the ability to change the mind, and if it is approached with the rigid view that tulpamancy is irreversible then that exploration won't be very deep (edited)

Do you mind if I DM you? I realized I had written a long reply to this, but uh... this is a question channel, and I don't wanna drop a bombshell of a message that is just barely under the discord message limit in #tulpa-discussion just out of the blue. (Unless that's okay.)

Do it!

5:36 PM

Post it here we love that stuff

Rusty

Post it here we love that stuff

I guess I'll chuck it in discussion then.

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

what you can't do is go back in time and delete your experience of having climbed the mountain. But hopefully you wouldn't want to, because you'd learn a lot about yourself along the way ^w^

what if you hit your head on a rock while rolling down and lose all your memories? (edited)

then you'd still learn about how important it is to wear a helmet ^w^

I can personally attest to this as well.

blanka ↩️

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I do wonder...what would happen to a headmate who is totally forgotton about...

leviine

I do wonder...what would happen to a headmate who is totally forgotton about...

they would effectively not exist

I'm sure their metaphorical 'code' would still exist in your brain, but since it requires your effort to be used in any viable manner, I suppose it wouldn't matter.

if no one remembers something happened, would it have actually happened? (tehe)

I was simply wondering how their 'data' would be stored, or if it would be destroyed upon being completely forgotton.

12:28 AM

Perhaps we can only wonder, I doubt there'd be a concrete answer.

i think completely forgetting something would require the memory to be destroyed

Hmm, maybe you're right.

12:31 AM

But I'm not sure that's true.

12:32 AM

Even if you forget something serious, for example, trauma, your body often still remembers it.

12:32 AM

Then again, repression and completely forgetting something are different.

12:33 AM

Can you truly forget something? Or would it just become harder and harder to remember, but still there in a sense?

I feel like unless the brain tissue is physically destroyed, it will always be there in some form

\ oops that was me

Interesting. I believe that as well.

leviine

Can you truly forget something? Or would it just become harder and harder to remember, but still there in a sense?

you can

12:39 AM

if the physical structure the memory resides on doesnt exist, that memory doesnt either

So long as your brain remains physically in tact though.

if the structure behind a memory remains intact why would the memory disappear

12:41 AM

(idk how memory works tbh)

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Age, repression, forgetfullness.

repression doesnt make you truly forget something though

How loudly do you hear your headmates?

As loud as my own internal monologue, which can be 'loud' or 'quiet' depending on what's being said.

^

Yeah, this is true for us too

shouting and whispering have the same perceived volume for us

2:19 AM

it's just a matter of the tone of the sound moreso than the volume

I am sitting here trying to yell and I can’t. I can’t make my mind voice sound louder or sound like I’m yelling. That the fuck why did you curse me with this knowledge